THE OPPOSING VIEW OF Bezek’s “DON’T FREE THE JENA SIX”

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Sep 302007
 
Authors: Lester L. Washington

Ian Bezek is an undercover racist and his parents may be the same way, plain and simple, though like most at CSU, he claims to promote, embrace, and brag about diversity and the few black or minority people he knows and socialized with, but know little about us.

First, he starts by that he was disheartened by the racism that has existed in this country for more than 500 years against first the Native Americans and grew forward. Disheartened but not beat, jailed, and lynched because of his color.

The purpose of the Civil Rights Movement was not to have a colorblind society as you dream of, but a society in light of history that is very aware of the color of others and their culture.

A person that wants a colorblind society is a racist in heart.

He also stated “The Jena Six are a group of black students that, according to witnesses, assaulted a white classmate.”

This is a true statement but Ian – you overlooked a vital point in any argument – gathering and presenting all of the facts from both sides.

A black student was assaulted, beaten, and hurt the night before and “the racist police and DA would not allow him to take pictures, press charges against the whites, and the DA’S office sought no charges against the whites – a vital and racially blinding fact that you and others overlooked.

Yes, Justin was hurt and needed treatment – or did he? He was at a party later that night so was this a charade.

The Blacks looking at the nooses were hurt too, so were the blacks that were beaten the night and weeks before. You failed to acknowledge or address that fact.

You also stated that it is not surprising the students were charged and arrested – you fail to mention that what is more surprising is the DA’s Office, hospital, court, and police collaborated and failed to care for the black victims that were beaten in the same manner they care for the whites.

No psychologists were called in to counsel the black students for Psychological trauma from the nooses – a death threat. Are the blacks less human, 3/5 of a man, a dog, animal, and unworthy of medical care?

Likewise, how did 16 year-old Mychal Bell become the focal point? Was someone out to hang this nigger because he has a criminal record?

Check the public court records, there are whites in Jena whose record is far more criminal and extensive than his and they are walking the streets because their crimes – though equal – were considered mistakes – mere pranks.

I know – I lived in Louisiana 12 years and had to file suit against white supremacists.

What makes a confident woman a bitch, a black man that commits a crime an extreme criminal, and yet a white male that commits the same crime a prankster? Racism – deep seated, damaging, race worshipping, anti Christian racism.

In this case, race was not used as a “get out of jail free” card” as you stated, in fact race was used the night before as a “you cannot go to the hospital, get medical attention, you cannot file charges, and a “the court and police are not here to serve AND protect you card,” as it was for Barker.

The white violent criminals went free but you stated “we live in a nation of laws and . we cannot let violent criminals go free” but you did the night before – because they were whites who assaulted a black person but “that is OK in your consciousness when the person is Gay, black, Hispanic, a female victim of domestic violence, and other minorities? BS!!”

What are the names of the white students that beat the black student the night before? You do not know because they were not haunted down, arrested, charged with crimes, criminalized because they were white – how ironic.

Yes the protesters were pissed and so was I because of people like you – comfortable in your racial blindness – white skin privileges where crimes of black men are mere pranks when committed by whites. Where, like at CSU, people brag about diversity but keep qualified blacks out of jobs and key positions and have done so for decades.

Yes imagine, if your father and mother really taught you not to be racist – prejudice – you really would have a different view of the world and present facts from both sides.

You stated “Courtrooms are a place to serve justice, not debate racial injustices; Bell is guilty and should be punished.”

Yes, Mychal Bell should be punished – beside nine white students: three who hung nooses and six who beat a black student the night before Bell was in a fight – equally punished, jailed, and criminalized for life!

Yes, and you say you are ashamed, but you omitted vital facts and justified keeping teens in jail for doing the same things whites did the day before and they were not jailed – fighting.

Lester L. Washington is a Ph.D. candidate in the CSU School of Education. He can be contacted at llwashing@hotmail.com or 970-689-2549. Letters and feedback can be sent to letters@collegian.com

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Honesty and opposing views in the classroom

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Sep 302007
 
Authors: Anne Marie Merline

There are a few things that I tell my students on the first day of class. The first is that the syllabus is our contract for the semester. My job is to communicate those guidelines put forth on the syllabus effectively and grade fairly based on the grading information that I provide.

One important perspective that I give my students is that it is my job to do these two things. The rest is the responsibility of the student.

Because I teach courses in the social sciences and the humanities, it is important to me that I tell my students is that I am a liberal and that that I do not have a good poker face. I could not hide my political and social perspectives if I tried.

A “liberal,” to me, is the belief that there are forces outside of ourselves that cause us to have certain experiences in life because of our ascribed and achieved statuses. These statuses are our sex, race, ethnicity, and our socio-economic status.

Our achieved statuses are traits that reflect our achievement in life – things like our level of education and our material assets.

I contend that we are a compilation of genetic disposition as well as life experience. If you are not a middle to upper class male of western European descent, that “society” is detrimental to your social health.

I take into consideration that the rest of us fare differently to being a part of one ascribed or achieved status.

This is not to say that I don’t believe in personal responsibility, and the good that can come out of good hard work. But I do believe that some are at a disadvantage because of where they were born, or the color of their skin, or any other myriad of conditions of their lives. As a human community that we fail many people because of differences.

If you are a first year student, your college experience will be different from your high school classroom experiences.

At the K-12 level, the teachers are taught to teach the material without bias at the center of the information. Public school teachers cannot lay down their opinion because of the impression that they might give their students.

In college, however, there are different standards.

There is an expectation that the students are able to think for themselves.

Instructors can express their opinions in class, and if they are a good instructor they will state “in my opinion.” or “as a social fact.” which helps the students make up their mind as to their own opinion.

The First Amendment to the Constitution protects the opinions in the classroom and on campus, and instructors cannot be fired for expressing their opinion. The tenure system in higher education was instituted to further protect the rights of instructors.

What should not be endured is the disrespect of the opinions and experiences of the students.

Both parties should be able to start a phrase that starts with “in my opinion,” and both parties should be required to respect those opinions in the quest for “the truth.”

I contend that we learn nothing if we talk and discuss the issues with people who are like-minded.

We can feel good and high and mighty that we “know” what the truth is, but we learn little about the world when we look in the mirror. I come to the classroom with my liberal bias, and I invite students with a different perspective to join me in an intellectual song, which adds the harmony to the melody of learning.

As I admit to my biases and my humanity, which I have more experience with, it is important for students to understand this about themselves. We are all humans in the game that higher education calls the quest for “the truth.”

We live in a country that cherishes the freedom of speech and dissent.

The classroom and the campus are not and should not be the Ivory Tower that they once were thought to be: a haven outside of the realm of reality.

We should all be able to put our cards on the table, have a civilized debate, express our opinions and come to a closer examination of “the truth” with the noble quest for human understanding that, in the end, benefits us all.

Anne Marie Merline is an instructor for the university honors program. Her column appears occasionally in the Collegian. Letters and feedback can be sent to letters@collegian.com.

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The big boy jobs can wait

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Sep 302007
 
Authors: David Thigpen Daily Mississippian

(U-WIRE) OXFORD, Miss. – As a graduate student, I often hear from people who say that I am either a professional student or that I eventually have to grow up and get a big boy job, as if when I go to work right now, I am somehow working with infants. But, with all of these comments, which situation is really better?

For the sake of simplicity, let’s assume that the average salary that you can get going to work directly out of college is $40,000 a year, which will give you $3,333 a month before taxes.

If you were to take out $900 per month in rent with no down payment, you will only be able to get a 6.5 percent fixed rate loan of $64,000 over 15 years and $85,000 over 30 years, which is not enough to buy a decent house or fix up a cheap crummy house – $100 per month or more for landline and cell phone service, $200 to $300 per month for electricity, $30 to $200 per month for gas, around $200 per month for auto insurance, $50 per month for health insurance, $20 per month for renter’s insurance and $50 per month for water, sewage and garbage. This leaves you between $1,513 and $1,783 per month.

If this sounds like it isn’t that bad, please keep in mind that you haven’t even paid or filed taxes yet. From personal experience, you could pay about one fifth of your income in withholdings and still owe the government money.

This doesn’t even count the cost of an accountant – it costs around $200 per year on average to get a tax preparer – or the time that you waste getting all of the forms from various employers and financial advisors for investments. This takes away from the time that you could spend working and making more money.

By the end of the day, you may have around $800 to $1000 of disposable income, and if you live like a monk, you may end up investing around $500 per month in a Roth IRA, a mutual fund or an emergency fund. You need to remember to have at least three months salary in a highly liquid asset such as a checking or a savings account.

This salary is more than likely going to remain unchanged for one to three years, which is the same amount of time that you would be in a masters program. Also, depending on the masters program that you choose, by the time you get out, you may have more than doubled your potential earnings, decreased the amount of experience you would have to have for certain jobs and raised a ceiling on the maximum amount of money you can make doing certain jobs. Some government jobs have a maximum amount that you can make, which is based on your level of education.

If you decide to stay in school and get a doctorate, you would see a marginal gain in income over a masters, a further decrease in the amount of experience for certain jobs and an elimination of the ceiling on the maximum amount of money you can make. The only risk is that you will price yourself out of jobs on the lower end of the pay grade.

In all of this, the hope is that you’ve somehow built up the necessary experience that you need for the nicer jobs while you were in graduate school, so that by the time you get out you can maximize your earnings and make your time in graduate school financially worthwhile.

Also, if, while you were in graduate school, you were able to match the savings that you would have made had you gone to straight to work, you would have completely mitigated any losses from not going straight to work out of college.

The best part of it all is that you get to do something that most of your friends in the big boy jobs only wish they could do, which is enjoy the college life a little bit longer. You have the rest of your life to work. Hopefully, going to graduate school now will help you avoid asking your parents for money further down the road. I’m sure the parents would appreciate this.

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Lower textbook costs

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Sep 302007
 
Authors: Aaron Hedge

In light of skyrocketing textbook costs, Colorado student organizations are following suit in a nation-wide legislative effort to lighten the load textbooks impose on students’ wallets.

The Associated Students of CSU (ASCSU) and the Associated Students of Colorado (ASC) began a campaign this semester directed at state lawmakers pushing legislation requiring textbook publishers to make textbook information transparent to teachers and students.

Other state institutions will be writing letters this semester.

CSU students have written and sent 227 letters to Sen. Steve Johnson, (R-Fort Collins), over the past weeks, said Dan Palmer, textbook efforts coordinator for ASCSU.

The price of textbooks has increased 40 percent over the past five years, which is twice the rate of inflation, according to a U.S. Department of Education report.

And most students don’t know what the costs are because publishers aren’t required to disclose that information, said Gibson.

Bruce Hildebrand, executive director of the Higher Education department at the Association of American Publishers disagrees, said that there is concern among publishers that the market is too transparent.

He points out that huge amounts of textbook information is available online through International Standard Book Numbers (ISBNs).

“How much transparency do you need?” he said. “(Publishers) have used the Internet to explode information to the public.”

Another problem is bundling, which is the inclusion of learning supplements like CDs and Internet ID cards with textbooks. Bundling increases costs of textbooks by adding material that may not be used in class onto the price.

Hildebrand said students assume that publishers are at fault for the high price bundling generates, but the blame actually lies with teachers.

“The faculty go through (curricula) and choose what works best for their instructional needs and their students,” Hildebrand said. “Nobody is asking the question ‘Who is choosing the textbooks?’ (and that answer is) the faculty,” he said.

Some states have already signed legislation that is aimed at making textbooks cheaper.

In Washington, government officials signed legislation in April nicknamed the “Textbook Transparency Act,” which requires publishers to make information about textbook publication available to campus communities.

“It required publishers that are affiliated with our universities to disclose price to professors and students,” said Bryce Gibson, student lobbyist for Associated Students of the University of Washington (ASUW).

But Chad Chitwood, press representative for the U.S. House of Representatives warned that at state levels, textbook transparency legislation could complicate the national problem.

“If you have 50 states doing 50 different things, it’s just going to exacerbate the problem,” he said.

But Hildebrand said that legislation wouldn’t do much to lower the price of textbooks and stressed the importance of professors’ responsibility.

“No bundle is created without a professor explicitly requesting it,” he said.

Senior reporter Aaron Hedge can be reached at news@collegian.com.

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Parents angry about controversial editorial

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Sep 302007
 
Authors: Aaron Hedge

A CSU student is considering ending her education at CSU because of an editorial that was printed in the Collegian Sept. 21. The editorial that included a profane reference to President George W. Bush convinced her parents to start researching other schools.

The editorial, which read “Taser this . F*** BUSH” with the expletive spelled out in font about twice the size of a headline, upset Cathy Ide, mother of construction management sophomore Holly Loucks. Ide was so offended that she will probably pull her daughter from CSU.

“It’s just so disrespectful to our leader,” Ide, of Casper, Wyoming said. “We’re gonna be looking at other schools. It just shows how liberal the school is. I’m not sure that I want her to go to a school that would allow that.”

“My family is very conservative, not like the Collegian,” Loucks said.

Ide is also worried that tuition might go up as an indirect result of the page four editorial.

“If funds are pulled from Colorado State and that causes an increase in tuition,

then I’m gonna be pulled from school,” Loucks said.

A representative of CSU alumni voiced concerns at a Board of Student Communications (BSC) hearing Wednesday night that alumni organizations are having trouble collecting funds from regular donors because of the editorial.

“I have a buddy of the alumni association who calls for donations,” said Riley Hestermann, a senior marketing major. “He can’t even get people to talk to him because they are so upset. They’re fired up.”

Hestermann was one of 12 students and community members who spoke against the editorial and advocated for the firing of Collegian Editor in Chief J. David McSwane.

Supporters of the piece, including media studies instructor Pam Jackson, said that McSwane didn’t deserve to be fired and had effectively accomplished his goal to start debate about freedom of speech. Eighteen McSwane supporters spoke at the meeting.

The BSC will decide whether McSwane will keep his job in a private meeting Thursday.

One CSU official said it is too early to worry about tuition increases from donators pulling support.

“I think it’s too early to tell if the alumni association will be affected,” said Dell Rae Moellenberg, a spokeswoman for the university.

“My mom is pretty torqued . because no one’s doing anything about it,” Loucks said.

The Collegian has also received several letters to the editor from parents who have crossed CSU off the list of their children’s possible colleges.

“For the first time, I am ashamed to be a part Colorado State University,” Loucks said.

Senior reporter Aaron Hedge can be reached at news@collegian.com.

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Hang Loose [VIDEO]

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Sep 302007
 
Authors: Tim Maddocks

A green-shirted volunteer looked down at a list to see who was next to climb in the Neptune Mountaineering Horsetooth Hang Saturday.

“Hunter,” said the volunteer, calling the next rock climber. “She’s addicted. This problem is like crack.”

Hunter Schumaker, 13, from the Estes Climbing Team started on the left end and seized hold of her first crimp. She slowly worked her way toward the right following the white chalk smears across the red-grained rock.

“Come on Hunter. Let’s go Hunter,” said the crowd.

The cheers and urging kept rhythmic pace. When she got halfway, approaching the most difficult section, she barely grabbed a distant hold. Her weight shifted as she made a stretched reach of faith. The crowd gasped.

“Nice,” said a few onlookers.

From there, it seemed easy going and Schumaker effortlessly topped the boulder.

Camaraderie seemed commonplace among climbers at the 12th annual Horsetooth Hang.

“Climbers are like a big unofficial fraternity. You meet people out here, and it’s like I don’t know you, but I know you. You can be climbing the easiest rock and experts will be cheering you on,” said Chad Bowman, a festival volunteer and climber since 2001.

Schumaker said she liked that everyone cheered when she climbed.

“It keeps me going,” she said.

While the atmosphere was more friendly than competitive, the Horsetooth Hang was still a competition. Climbers were judged at different skill levels and scored based on the difficulty of the climb.

Prizes were also given for trash pick-up. Climbers earned raffle tickets for turning in full garbage bags and climbing gear was raffled at the after party at Hodi’s Half Note.

Many climbers waiting for their runs filled garbage bags.

More than 300 pounds of trash was collected, Horsetooth Hand Director Cameron Crosssaid said. And some unique things were picked up, including a side panel from a car and lady’s underwear.

Hazen Goodyear, 21, came from Gunnison to climb, said he hadn’t even heard about the festival until the day before in an article printed in the Collegian. When he figured the climbing conditions were going to busier than he preferred he decided to join the waste management cause. He held up his half-full bag and shook it.

“There’s a lot of glass,” said Hazen.

Craig Luebben, one of the founders of the Hang, held a self-rescue clinic in the afternoon and promoted safety during the event.

Rachel Brooks, 19, was a volunteer spotting and giving advice even though she has only been climbing for three months. The scar above her right eye, from climbing without a crash pad, is enough for her to understand the importance of safety.

Brooks suggested routes and held the crash pad for John Colton, 47, who has been climbing for 34 years. His friends call him “Old Guy,” but he still listened to Brooks’ advice.

“Everyone supports everyone, no matter what,” said Brooks.

Staff writer Tim Maddocks can be reached at news@collegian.com.

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Rams stay on top of Mountain West

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Sep 272007
 
Authors: Brandon Owens

In a battle of the two top ranked volleyball teams in the Mountain West Conference Thursday night at Moby Arena, the Rams prevailed with a shutout victory.

CSU (9-4,4-1) defeated the San Diego State Aztecs (10-5,2-2) in three games (30-18, 21-30, 22-30), extending its record at home this season to a perfect 8-0.

The Aztecs came into play Thursday night second only to the Rams in the MWC. CSU remains in first place with a 4-1 conference record.

The Rams dominated the Aztecs in nearly every category. Middle blocker Tessa Nelson said the team’s passing was a difference in the match.

“I don’t think we were surprised,” Nelson said. “We put ourselves in a good position to win because our passing was very consistent. It was hard for them to defend when Ashley (Fornstrom) had a lot of options.”

Nelson also said that she doesn’t expect to see the same team when they play them in San Diego, Calif., in late October.

“I think they are a better team than we saw tonight,” she said. “We know what they’re capable of, and we also know that we need to be prepared when we play them in San Diego.

In game 1, the Rams had some strong serving, setting the tone for the match. Outside hitter Jaime Strauss had two service aces in a row to put the Rams up 5-3. Coach Tom Hilbert said that this was important in disrupting the Aztecs’ game plan.

“We started the match servicing really well,” he said. “We had them back on their heels at the beginning of the match and I think probably disrupted them a lot.”

Strauss led the Rams with 13 kills, 10 digs, 3 total blocks and 2 aces. Middle blocker Mekana Barnes and true freshman Danielle Minch also had solid matches. Barnes had 11 kills and 3 blocks and Minch had 10 kills. Libero Katelin Batten led CSU in digs with 13.

The Rams did have 10 service errors, though, while the Aztecs had zero. Hilbert explained the discrepancy was because of CSU’s aggressiveness.

“San Diego State missed zero, but look what happens,” Hilbert said. “We passed way better. They passed worse because we’re driving it over the net. I think that’s important for volleyball fans to know.”

The Rams host the University of Nevada-Las Vegas 1:00 p.m. Saturday at Moby Arena.

Volleyball beat reporter Brandon Owens can be reached at sports@collegian.com.

Player of the Game: Jaime Strauss

13 kills

10 digs

3 total blocks

2 service Aces

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Key Match-up: Chase Ortiz

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Sep 272007
 
Authors: Nick Hubel

Though Texas Christian’s start this season (2-2) wasn’t what they envisioned at the outset, and their much-touted defense has been little more than average thus far this season, the Horned Frogs are still an undeniably talented defensive team.

In four games so far this season, TCU has given up just six touchdowns. Opponents are averaging 216.5 passing yards per game and 130.5 rushing yards per game against them.

A large part of their successes are due to the dominating play of senior defensive ends Chase Ortiz and Tommy Blake, two preseason All-Americans and Chuck Bednarik Award (given to the nation’s top defensive player) watch list players.

Fortunately for the Rams, Tommy Blake was put on a two week medical leave from the team this week and will not be playing this weekend. That leaves the pressure on Ortiz and sophomore Allen Christopher to fill the void.

“For the next two games, we’re going to give Tommy a medical leave of absence. We’ve tried to push through the last three weeks and haven’t helped him,” TCU head coach Gary Patterson said. “We’re concerned with Tommy Blake. Hopefully, in a few weeks, we’ll see some improvement and revisit it again.”

With a player like Ortiz occupying an end, the Rams will still have their hands full in the blocking game.

Ortiz is a two-time first team All Mountain West player, and has started in 28 consecutive games for the Horned Frogs. Of his 14 tackles this season, two are sacks and five are for a loss – both team highs.

Ortiz came out of high school as a linebacker, and is still able to use those skills from time to time in the flat. He has two pass deflections this season and intercepted a pass last season in the team’s opener against Baylor.

A skilled pass rusher, Ortiz led the MWC in sacks his sophomore year with nine, and was second only to Blake last year in tackles for a loss with 11.5.

Vitals:

Height: 6-3

Weight: 255

Position: DE

Class: Senior

Major: Communications

Hometown: League City, TX

By The Numbers:

5 – Preseason All-American award watch lists

13.5 – Career sacks

4 – Career forced turnovers, including one interception

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Martinez prepares for speedy TCU line

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Sep 272007
 
Authors: Jeff Dillon

One of the biggest question marks surrounding the Rams recently has been their offensive line.

But one constant has been offensive tackle Adrian Martinez, who has started in all but one game the past two seasons.

Martinez and the young Rams offensive line (one senior and four sophomores) can make a big statement tomorrow against a TCU defensive line, regarded by most as the best in the Mountain West.

“It’s the season opener, it would be a great, great way to get our first win of the season,” Martinez said. “We would definitely show the conference who we are.”

Chase Ortiz comes into the game without his tag-team partner, Tommy Blake, who is ranked by The Sporting News as the fifth best defensive end in the country.

But Darryl Funk, CSU’s offensive line coach, said he thinks Ortiz may actually be the better all-around player.

“For three years, Blake has a little more stats, has a little bit more of an intimidating presence but Ortiz may be the best end in the league,” Funk said.

Martinez said he and his teammates spent this week preparing diligently.

“We’re really focusing on being more aggressive, more stout and on not letting one of those guys loose to get to the quarterback,” he said.

Funk said the Rams will have a “plan A, plan B” philosophy, and that both Martinez and fellow tackle Cole Pemberton will see work against Ortiz.

“You make some special considerations for those type of ends,” Funk said. “But by the same token if you focus too much on the ends then all of a sudden a young d-tackle will step up and kill you. It basically comes down to execution of what we do.”

Martinez said he’s ready for the challenge.

“I know we’re going to get it done,” he said. “There’s no other choice for us.”

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Vitals:

Position: OT

Number: 60

Height: 6-4

Weight: 300

Year: So.

Major: Business

Hometown: San Clemente, Calif.

By the Numbers:

13 – career starts for the sophomore

45 – advantage in pounds over TCU DE Ortiz

5 – rank in the CIF wrestling championships his junior year in high school

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Racing in Oregon

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Sep 272007
 
Authors: Anica Wong

For the CSU cross country teams, it all starts now.

The teams will head to the Bill Dellinger Invitational at the University of Oregon on Saturday. The meet will mark the beginning of a series of meets for the team that will include good competition and fast races.

“This is our first big weekend,” coach Bryan Berryhill said.

At the meet, CSU will face many nationally ranked teams, including No. 1 Wisconsin and No. 3 Oregon on the men’s side. The women will race against the likes of Arkansas, Georgia, Washington and BYU, ranked 4th, 15th, 17th and 18th, respectively.

“Anytime when you got to a meet like this where you accumulate points, you try to knock off as many teams that you can,” Berryhill said about his team facing stiff competition.

The pressure is on senior April Thomas, as she is the highest returning finisher from last year’s NCAA championships to run in the invitational.

“I know I am the highest returning finisher from last year,” Thomas said, “but I figure that it is a new year with new levels of fitness.”

This ranking lets Thomas know where she needs to be in the pack– at the front, she said.

Coach Berryhill has been encouraged by this week’s practices, which have been very productive on both the men’s and women’s side.

“The men need to perform on Saturday as we have performed in workouts this week,” said Berryhill. Consistency is the key for the men.

The women, who have been strong and consistent since the beginning of the season, look to be competitive at the meet.

“I would love to see us (as a team) get third,” Thomas said.

This is the second annual Bill Dellinger Invitational, which will be held at the Springfield Country Club. The women will run a 6,000m race beginning at 9:15 a.m., while the men run the 8,000m race at 10 a.m., Pacific Time.

Cross country beat reporter Anica Wong can be reached at sports@collegian.com

Visual:

List of 15 men’s teams:

/ Colorado State, Wisconsin, Oregon, Washington, Cal Poly, Portland, UCLA, Alabama, Duke, Georgia, Marquette, New Mexico, Ohio State, Utah State and UTEP.

List of 15 women’s teams:

/ Colorado State, Oregon, Arkansas, Georgia, Washington, BYU, Marquette, Montana, New Mexico, Oregon State, Portland, UCLA, Utah State, UTEP and Wake Forest.

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