Emerging Leaders recognized by Penley

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Mar 312005
 
Authors: Cari Merrill

Meeting with the president of a major university is a rare event for most students.

But a select group received the opportunity Wednesday night.

The President's Forum for Emerging Leaders invited approximately 115 students to participate in an evening of dinner, prizes and the chance to talk with various administrators of campus, including CSU President Larry Penley.

"Tonight (was) an opportunity to meet Dr. Penley and administrators and discuss leadership," said David Fontenot, student intern in the President's office and organizer of the evening's event.

An e-mail invitation notified specific students of the event; these students stood out in the minds of faculty, staff and the President's office due to their potential leadership skills and/or high GPA, Fontenot said.

The night of events began with a reception in which students gathered around tables to talk with various administrators from campus. President Penley welcomed students before dinner was served. The dinner hour included more conversation with administrators. Afterward, Penley shared encouraging words with students.

"What you have to do, if you're going to exercise leadership and get involved here at Colorado State University, is make this university a little bit better," Penley said during his presentation.

Students later had the chance to share what qualities they think make a good leader.

Jaime Magnuson, a freshman creative writing major, said hearing other students share their ideas and views about what they think leadership is was helpful.

"Bringing a lot of different people together for the same thing is really good," Magnuson said.

The idea for Wednesday night's event came from a previous program, "Pizza with the Prez," which was a more formal question-and-answer session in which students could participate with Penley, Fontenot said.

Penley believes the forum is a better alternative than the previous program.

"David (Fontenot) and I talked about this in the early fall and both of us felt like the alternative would work better," Penley said. "I think 'Pizza with the Prez' really helped to create the kind of exchange and interaction with students and the president that I would like to see."

Students who attended saw the program as a success.

"I think they had a really good turnout and people were really excited to be here and be energetic about leading input," said Mandy Elliott, freshman marketing and fashion merchandising major.

After Wednesday night, students are encouraged to commit themselves to becoming better leaders and stay involved with CSU, Fontenot said.

Penley is excited about the forum and its continuance in the upcoming semesters.

"I get really excited because it gives me a chance to meet directly with students of campus," Penley said. "It gives me a chance to hear what students are up to and concerned about. It gives us a chance to gather administration and students to focus in on leadership and talk about what that means."

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Campus Calendar

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Mar 312005
 
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From Puritanism to Romanticism

4:10 p.m.

Lory Student Center room 207

Phil Cafaro speaks in this presentation by the philosophy department.

Intercollegiate Swing Battle

7 p.m.

Main Ballroom, student center

Features four competing schools, a live band and lessons with admission.

Mystery Science Theater

7 p.m.

Senate chambers, student center

Featuring "Revenge of the Creature."

Annual Landscape Architecture Days

7 p.m.

Natural Resources room 113

Jennifer Guthrie speaks in the third of a four night lecture series.

CSU Idol! – Round Two

7 p.m.

Ramskeller

Come and show some support for your peers!

CinemaCSU Presents: "Tarnation"

7 p.m.

Lory Student Center Theater

An epic portrait of an American family torn apart by dysfunction.

Singing in Sign

9 to 10 p.m.

Lower level commons, student center

Part of Disability Awareness Days 2005.

Live Life Late: Karaoke and Crafts 9:30 p.m. -1 a.m.

9:30 p.m.

Ramskeller

After CSU Idol, come join us for some Karaoke where everyone is a star!

2morrow:

CSU Snowriders Day Trip

Snowriders office, lower level student center

Sign up at the Snowriders office.

Green and Gold Gala

Denver Marriott City Center

Call (800) 286-2586 to make reservations.

Annual Landscape Architecture Days

7 p.m.

Natural Resources room 113

Andrea Cochran speaks in the fourth of a four night lecture series.

Sunday:

International Children's Carnival

2 to 4 p.m.

Main Ballroom, student center

This event features games, crafts and entertainment from all over the world.

International Stage Show

4 to 5:30 p.m.

Main Ballroom, student center

This event will feature music, entertainment and dancing from around the world.

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Campus Blotter

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Burglary at Weed Research Building. Projector and camera taken.

Vandalism to lap top computer at Allison Hall.

Schwinn mountain bike was stolen from campus area yesterday.

Graffiti in women's room at Lory Student Center regarding marijuana.

Theft of stereo and other equipment from Jeep behind Holiday Inn the prior day.

Call of males handing out flyers at Towers. They were advised to move to an appropriate area.

Accident in Library lot was less than $1,000.

Animal welfare check of puppy in a pickup truck – dog was fine.

Follow up done on several cases, checked buildings and lots, two Traffic Enforcement and Education Program, three Bike Enforcement and Education Program and two university parking services cites issued.

Warned several skaters and one dog owner regarding leash law.

Female feeling faint at Student Recreation Center was checked by emergency medical services and released.

Nights

Hit and run accident with DUI driver. Non-affiliated driver was seen driving carelessly on Meridian Avenue and crashing into car along Meridian Avenue before driving of at high rate of speed and into the fence at the south S Curve of Meridian Avenue. To Poudre Valley Hospital for medical clearance, then to jail on several charges. Good work foot patrol and officers involved!

Two cited and several warned regarding marijuana and paraphernalia at Braiden Hall.

DUI arrest on Prospect Road at Center Avenue.

Welfare check on intoxicated male at student center, running northbound with a female. Officers searched entire area and couldn't locate them.

Call of males climbing outside walls of Yates Hall – gone on arrival.

Intoxicated male tried to jump curb on bicycle and did a "face-plant" on Plum Street. To Poudre Valley Hospital by emergency medical services.

Fire alarm at Lory Student Center – pull station in NW hallway was pulled by unknown person.

One Traffic Enforcement Education Program cite, checked south campus and transient area – all OK.

Male flagged officer down to report having knowledge about a shooting Fort Collins Police Services was investigating last night. Information referred to Fort Collins Police Services.

Crazy night!

CSUPD writes the Blotter. The Collegian edits for AP style and size.

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Lloyd’s loves to show local art

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Mar 302005
 
Authors: Daniel Hallford

Dancers are jumping out of the walls and leaping through frames at Lloyd's Art Center.

A showcase of paintings and drawings adorns the walls of Lloyds, 216 N. College Ave., an art-supply shop and gallery, providing shoppers with an inside peek at the thrill and beauty of the art of dancing. Works by Sam Thiewes and Paul Febvre of Fort Collins will be shown until Friday.

Febvre and Thiewes have been painting together at a weekly art class at Lloyd's for nine years. This recent project is the result of the two artists collaborating together over the last three years sketching and painting the dancers at Westin Arts Academy, 1611 S. College Ave.

"It's really a demanding exercise," Febvre said. "(The human form) is probably the most difficult thing to draw."

Febvre, who has never taken an art class, loves to draw dancers because of the challenge they pose. Because dancers are constantly in motion, the artist has to think much faster and relay thoughts to paper almost as he or she is seeing them occur.

"Human form is one of the most beautiful things," Febvre said.

He also said trying to convey the feelings and charm of the dancer is his biggest concern.

Thiewes agreed that sketching dancers is an intimate process.

"Mentally, you really get into the personality you're looking at," Thiewes said.

Thiewes said drawing the human form is a test of an artist's ability.

"When you're working on a painting (of a landscape), you don't necessarily have to be accurate," Thiewes said. "But there's no place to hide in portrait drawing. You can either draw what you see or you can't. It's where you see how good of an artist someone is."

Lloyd's has been a staple of the art community for years, and it provides a place for local artists to show their work.

"Lloyd's is probably the oldest art-supply store in Fort Collins," said Tonia Bouska, an employee at Lloyd's, which was opened in 1951. Lloyd's rotates their store's gallery space between approximately 12 local artists and usually has one show per month, beginning a new one to coincide with the monthly Fort Collins Gallery Walk. Lloyd's takes a commission on each piece of art sold, and pieces in Thiewes and Febvre's show range from $40 to $300.

"(The exhibits) go anywhere from very traditional work to very non-objective work. There's always a variety of mediums in each show," Bouska said.

Thiewes' next show, which features his landscape works, begins Friday at Lloyd's. Febvres next show begins on May 1 at Lloyd's. Febvre will have his watercolor landscapes out on display.

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Jonny Lang explodes with a new sound

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Mar 302005
 
Authors: Casey Cisneros, Jen Newson

The Aggie Theatre on Friday night received an attitude readjustment from Jonny Lang.

Lang, who has been playing professionally for more than 10 years, played to an overwhelmed and sold-out crowd. Although the ticket price cut into concertgoers' pockets at $30 apiece, Lang's performance kept the audience's mind on the music throughout the show.

Lang's style, which is steeped in a tradition of blues, rock and jazz all intertwined into a whirlpool of sounds, didn't make it in the door. Instead, there were chairs waiting in the shadows where the musicians would sit down to play an all-acoustic set. For an hour and a half Jonny Lang did what most musicians have never been able to do – keep the crowd from turning against him while strumming his acoustic guitar the whole time. The room's energy stayed at a peak until the final lyric was sung.

Known for his amazing voice and snappy blues licks, which resonate from the influences of such great players as Lightning Hopkins and Buddy Guy, sent waves of sound through the air that sounded as brilliant as his recordings. No microphone feedback, no bad notes and no rock-star arrogance were present.

Applause and screams thundered back at Lang after each song, all of which were received by the 25-year-old with a child-like grin of satisfaction on his face and plenty of "thank yous."

The whole time Lang's musical ability shined on. Despite him being on acoustic guitar, Lang showed off his chops with immaculate solos and a style all his own. It's hard to believe that Lang never received as much recognition for his guitar playing as Kenny Wayne Shepherd and Derek Trucks.

As the melodies got grittier and the guitar lines more elaborate, the musicians worked the crowd into an all-out eruption, climatic when Lang spilled out the first note of "Lie to Me."

Gasps filled the air and a silence came over the crowd while every pair of ears listened intently as each note of the song passed by. When the final chord was strung the audience erupted with screams of approval, but the evening's highlight had not even taken place. There was hardly time to reflect on the magic that had just filled the theatre before the melody of "Breakin' Me" came pouring through the speakers. Every female lost control of her ability to breathe and the entire audience swayed from side to side. This was truly the song every one was waiting for.

When the last note came to an end and the instruments that roared onstage became silent, the crowd again began to scream. The band left the stage while the audience's chanting echoed against the walls. After several minutes of high-pitched screams of approval, the theatre eventually became still and all that remained were a few guitar picks and a couple set lists.

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Concept on the Catwalk: Glitz and Glamour

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Mar 302005
 
Authors: Julie Abiecunas

This year's "Breakthrough-Concept on the Catwalk" couture, designed by senior apparel and merchandising majors, was bold, sassy, slinky and on the rare occasion, surprisingly sweet and innocent.

It wasn't a rarity at this year's show to see many of the models strutting across the stage scantly clad and with the occasional bottom peeking out from a particularly revealing garment. Designer Brittanie Villani's slinky, "professional go-go dancers" line featured a wide array of "barley-there" black pleather mini skirts and bikini tops, including one outfit in particular, which included matching dusty pink fur "pom-pom" like boots and jacket.

Villani said the inspiration for her go-go line came from looking at the outfits of her friends who were professional go-go dancers and from her research on current clubware trends.

Another line that capitalized on the "skin is in" concept was Kristi Nation's "Good Morning" line that featured silk and sheer lingerie including a sheer, royal purple, I-Dream-Of-Jeanie-esque bottom and top set.

Designers in this year's show seemed very in to gaudy silk and sheer fabrics to create their look. One designer in particular, Tava Carson, also capitalized on the use of feather, sequins and even gold coins in her garments.

Carson's line titled, "Plumes" was viva-Las-Vegas all the way and was chocked full of all sorts of glitzy-showgirl attire. One such stage-girl outfit seemed to command the audiences' attention as she (who, Carson? Model?- kd) paraded her garb across the runway. The model was adorned head to toe in yards of white feathers, shimmering silk and rhinestones. This outfit just screamed to be looked at.

Although the "Plumes" line may have commanded loads of attention, it certainly wasn't the one capturing all the audience's "oohs" and "ahhs," those went to Tanja Ristic's "B Baby" line, which featured reluctant toddlers stumbling on stage in rich moss green jumpers, ponchos and capris, accented with piping in darker moss green shades, giving Ristic's line a more earthy feel.

Another designer who went for a more toned-down look was Lindsey Bright's non-traditional, country-wedding-dress-themed line. One might not expect chunky brown suede cowboy boots and straw cowboy hats to necessarily lend themselves to wedding attire, yet Bright was able to pull off this combination. Her clean, flowing eyelet dresses, with simple silk ribbon accents and little pink silk rosebuds were just what any feminine cowgirl might want to wear on her big day. Bright also turned the simple straw hats into Bridal Couture, by adorning them with small clusters of white silk flowers and streams of ribbon.

Although Bright was the only one donning Bridalwear at this year's show, formal evening wear was definitely in. The use of different lines and straps to create aesthetically pleasing effects across the gowns was very in for this year's evening wear lines. One designer who seemed particularly fond of utilizing this effect was Lizzy Searle's eveningwear line, "one-of-a-kind wow!" which featured matching rich emerald, Indian print silk gowns. In order to differentiate between the almost identical gowns, Searle used black silk ribbon to create different straps and lines across the garment. Searle said her inspiration for the gowns originated from the fabric.

"(The fabric) was made up in Indian Sari's that I ordered off e-bay," Searle said. "I usually do street wear so I wanted to do some evening wear to diversify my portfolio."

"Breakthrough-Concept on the Catwalk," was held March 28 and 29 in the upper Lory Student Center Ballroom. Participation in the show is a portfolio requirement for senior apparel and merchandising majors as their capstone. In order to complete their portfolio, seniors had to create a line for the show, which many had been working on since of the start of last semester, and they even had to float the bill for all fabric and supplies on their own. Despite the time and cost however, many seniors felt participating in the show was well worth the benefits.

Designer Sarah Hale said the "Breakthrough-Concept on the Catwalk," show is definitely a boost for an apparel and merchandising student looking to put their designs out there and work on adding to their portfolio.

"It's definitely a big deal for your portfolio; you get a DVD from the show that you can show to your employer," Hale said. "It's important when you're getting a job to be able to show someone what you've done."

Being one of the few fashion schools in the Midwest, students often have a good chance at snagging some great internships, including Girl Extraordinaire, Erika Tanov and Betsy Johnson. According to the biographies listed in the program, many of the designers in last nights show also wish to one day own their own clothing line or boutique.

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Concert Calendar

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Mar 302005
 
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Thursday, March 31

Split Lip. Rayfield Aggie Theatre. 8 p.m. $10

Clumsy Lovers. Avogadro's Number. 8 p.m. $8

Friday, April 1

Railroad Earth. Aggie Theatre. 8 p.m. $10

Poudre River Irregulars. Avogadro's Number. 4-7 p.m. $7

Saturday, April 2

Gift Of Gab, Lateef The Truth Speaker. Aggie Theatre. 8 p.m. $15

The Reputation. Surfside 7. 9:30 p.m. $2

Hit & Run. Avogadro's Number. 8 p.m. $12

Sunday, April 3

The Samples. Aggie Theatre. 8 p.m. $12

The BellRays. Starlight Theatre. 7:30 p.m. $8

Monday, April 4

Karl Denson's Tiny Universe. Aggie Theatre. 8 p.m. $18

Tuesday, April 5

The Bravery, Ash. Bluebird Theatre, Denver. 7 p.m. $12

All American Rejects, Action Action. Gothic Theatre, Denver. 7 p.m. $15

Wednesday, April 6

Buck 65, Handsome Boy Modeling School. Fox Theatre. 8:30 p.m. $23

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Beck explores both new, old ground

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Mar 302005
 
Authors: Nicholas LoFaro

Beck, "Guero"

The international man of mystery has returned to the music scene. No, not Austin Powers … Beck is back. If you can remember the kooky days of "Odelay," and if you just recently were enlightened with Beck's somber and melancholy smash, "Sea Change," you will be happy to know that his new album, "Guero," is a fine and seamless mix of the past two albums.

"Odelay" was a smash album that had its success based around mystery and funk, and "Sea Change," with its sad and sorrowful tone, found its success because Beck surprised fans and new listeners by revealing a vulnerable and sensitive acoustic side.

On "Guero" Beck shows that even as a Caucasian guy, he can grasp firmly onto Latin and Spanish grooves (the songs "Que Onda Guero" and "Earthquake Weather") and urban hip-hop and '70s funk vibes, (the songs "Hell Yes" and "Got It Alone").

As Beck's eighth album, it is probably his finest work. He has held on to the deviant and youthful fun of his first albums and mixed up his expected funk, but it is also clear that the despair from his last album has established a permanent residence in his heart and music. The Dust Brothers are on the majority of the tracks and help boost this album's bumpiness.

Underneath all the fun and funk are some seriously forlorn lyrics. "Broken Drum" has a heavy, outer-space drum in the back of soft minor keys of a piano and would have fit perfectly on "Sea Change," but it sounds like it was written in retrospect to Beck's heart breaking: "One by one/we'll shoot our guns/we'll have our fun/doubt ever doubt it … your setting sun/your broken drum/your little drugs/I'll never forget you." "Black Tambourine" has some mad hip-hop grooves, and however groovy the song "Scarecrow" sounds, it's structured like a graveyard: "I wanted hope from a grave/I wanted strength from a slave/crows are pulling at my clothes/the wind got my fingers froze/standing all day keepin' watch/over all the lost treasures we lost." "E-Pro" opens the album with a hard-hitting, rock-hop jam, and "Rental Car" continues the heavy rock sounding like a fine '70s export, survived through a Playstation's speakers. "Emergency Exit" closes the album with some slide/acoustic guitar that'll be a nice song to play on your porch on warm days.

"Guero" shows that Beck's future will be set in the gray area between folk/funk and rock/hip-hop, which is a genre that will be hard to duplicate by other musicians who find inspiration in Beck's music. Definitely buy this one, whether you're a fan or not. This will be a nice companion in the coming months of rain and sunshine.

The Shins, "Chutes Too Narrow"

Although this Shins album was originally released in 2003, it was chosen for review because of the Albuquerque quartet's recent success and credibility on the "Garden State" soundtrack. The Shins have been reveling in the Indie scene for quite some time, and with Zach Braff's choice of two of their newer songs on the soundtrack for his New Jersey-based movie it is worthwhile to look into this band's music.

Described as Baroque pop, it is easy to hear the band's British influence. The singer has no problem keeping his voice in the high-note range, and the mysterious guitar sounds are well crafted and borderline progressive. It's hard to believe that this band is from New Mexico because it sound seems birthed from the ocean.

Strange titles such as "Kissing The Lipless," "Pink Bullets" and "Fighting In A Sack" all help this melodic beach quartet keep its mystery hidden. The lyrics are intelligent, although the smart craft of the words is slightly underneath the band's strangeness and light-hearted approach toward coaxing their audience. The songs on "Chutes" are definitely a little bit under construction, but the craftsmanship of its Garden State contribution shows that the band is just getting started.

If you enjoyed the soundtrack to Zach Braff's satirical movie, or simply enjoy the Beach Boys, the Beatles, the acoustic Who songs or find particular interest in bands that keep their angst out of their sound, then you will enjoy this album. In the meantime, don't rush out to get this one, but rather wait for a new album to take shape.

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CSU Idol Competitors Rock It With Country

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Mar 302005
 
Authors: Julie Abiecunas

Top Eleven Idolers

1. Amanda Berrian – senior, environmental health

2. Ariel Cagan – freshman, open option

3. Julie Davis – junior, music

4. Laura Epple – graduate, veterinary medicine

5. Jessica Hariman – freshman, open option

6. Danielle Jacobson – junior, political science

7. Veronica May – senior, music therapy

8. Mark Phipps – sophomore, open option

9. Sarah Stover – freshman, chemistry

10. Angel Wint – sophomore, music education

11. BreAnne Zigich – freshman, open option

At the start of the competition Friday there were 15, but now only 11 remain in the Associated-Students-of-CSU-sponsored CSU idol competition.

What seemed to work for some idol competitors was country music. Two of the top three that made it to the next round got there by singing country.

Amanda Berrian, a senior environmental health major, received the most votes for her performance of Shania Twain's "Any Man of Mine." She started off her act by saying, "Listen up guys, because this is what a woman really wants," and ended by saying, "Got that guys?" Even the dean of the Liberal Arts College, Blane Harding, dubbed by the M.C. as the "Simon" of the judges said Barian's performance was,

"The best overall performance of the night."

Many of the girls who sang country seemed to receive the highest praise from the judges for using all of the stage and having good audience engagement.

Julie Davis, a junior music major, performed Gretchen Wilson's, "Red Neck Woman."

"The song was really high energy so that helped (engage the audience). I just tried to make eye contact a lot with the audience and smile a lot," Davis said.

Many of the CSU Idol competitors have a long history of stage performance and dream of one day becoming the next Kelly Clarkson or Clay Aiken.

Although CSU Idol may not include a record deal like the real "American Idol," the winner will receive free recording time with Kruger Audio Productions.

Angel Wint, a sophomore music education major and CSU Idol competitor, said she would find the studio time very useful in forwarding her music career.

"I'm working on my third independent album, so I'd probably use it (studio time), to fix up some of my songs," Wint said.

Wint wasn't the only singer/songwriter present at CSU Idol. Many of her fellow competitors donned guitars and sang their own songs. One such songstress was senior music therapy major Veronica May who sang a blues song she had written about a dream she had where she walked around with 2-inch feet and had three big teeth.

Other musical genres of the night included rock songs such as Rob Thomas's "3 a.m." and Toni's Braxton's love ballad, "Unbreak My Heart."

ASCSU coordinator Katherine Mangold felt the first night of CSU Idol turned out very smoothly.

"Things went really well," Mangold said. "We're really stoked about how the night went.

The remaining 11 will compete in Friday's competition in the Ramskeller at 7 p.m. Students who want to attend the event should be advised to show up early. Mangold said last Friday's event sold out and students were even turned away at the door.

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Quality Entertainment? A Schizophrenic Debate

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Mar 302005
 
Authors: Dominic Graziano

There are two sides to every argument. In some discussions, one person can represent both sides equally.

In the discussion about how bad or good modern television programming Dexter Cocheese, a fictional character, represents the type of people who don't have a problem with the current state of television. I, Dominic Graziano will represent the people who are tired of network sitcoms and the like. Make no mistake, I wrote this entire article.

Cocheese: I don't understand why everyone always says how bad programming is on network stations like FOX. The FOX network has done its best to make sure the fine people of this country get to see quality programming every night of the week.

Graziano: Insipid does not begin to describe the so-called "quality" programming on FOX. When I think of all the hours that viewers have spent watching stale shows such as "American Idol" or "The Simple Life," it takes all of my best efforts not to gouge my eyes out with a lackluster spoon.

Cocheese: Now wait just a minute. What did that angel among men, Paris Hilton, ever do to you? "The Simple Life" is a good show that lets common people like you and I see what it is like being a rich heiress trying to make it as a lowly cow inseminator, all while dressing in the height of current fashion.

Graziano: Don't get me started on that cell phone-losing nimrod and her boyfriends' poor choice in night-vision cameras. Besides, "The Simple Life" is not the only transgression FOX is guilty of; FOX has brought us other driveling excuses for reality-based shows such as "Nanny 911." We, as citizens and audience members to this massacre of entertainment, cannot sit back and let more television like this ruin the airwaves.

Cocheese: Granted, "Nanny 911" may not be the best television show, being based on nannies going into families' homes and disciplining children until they learn to respect their parents. To be fair though, with a premise like that, how could you expect FOX to turn down the idea?

Graziano: You've proven my point perfectly. We are at a point in television programming that almost any piece of garbage that is pitched to a half brain-dead producer gets sent to the drawing board, only to have conscientious viewers sigh in defeat when the end credits roll. What's next? A show about a well-endowed librarian, who, every week has to overcome her Barbie Doll-like beauty to show the world that she has as much intelligence as her plain-appearance counterpart?

Cocheese: Funny you should mention that. Pamela Anderson is starring in a new sitcom on FOX called "Stacked" that fits that exact premise.

It was at this point that I passed out from an unknown reason. Unexpected blackouts aside, it is easy to recognize that an argument such as this may never be settled. There will always be people who think that television today is just fine, that the programming on basic television isn't headed down a terrible spiral into the eighth level of Dante's Inferno.

On the other side of the argument are people like myself. I think that around three-quarters of all TV programming is, in one word, trash. When viewers spend their time watching celebrities live their lives, including acts such as mulling over whether tuna is a type of fish or poultry, the idea of quality entertainment is one step closer to disappearing. I can't help but wonder what will happen when these programs lose their "edge" and we have to move on to something else.

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